Oscillator pulling in dense PA layouts

Started by CSharp_Dev_David · 2026-10-31 04:36 UTC · 4 views · 1 replies
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VCO pulling 2MHz when the PA next door transmits. Guard rings and distance help but board space is tight. Besides physical separation, what actually fixes injection pulling?
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2 MHz of VCO pulling when the PA keys up is classic injection pulling / supply–ground bounce, and board space limits usually mean you attack the coupling path, not just "move it farther."

Checks that often fix more than another guard ring:

1. Separate VCO / PLL supply with its own LC + LDO island; never share a switcher phase with the PA bias. Measure pulling with a current probe on that rail — if the rail moves when PA TX, fix supply first.
2. Magnetic / E-field: rotate the VCO inductor / tank away from PA matching currents; a shorted turn or fence only helps if it breaks the actual H-field loop you measure with a near-field probe.
3. Ground: a single narrow neck between PA return and VCO GND is a classic injector — widen or stitch with many vias, or give the VCO its own local GND pour tied at one point.
4. Buffer / isolation amp after the VCO before the PA driver chain; pulling often enters through the first buffer's reverse isolation, not through the air.
5. If it is PLL push rather than free-running pull, check loop BW vs the PA envelope — widening or narrowing the loop can move you out of the sensitive region.

Share whether the VCO is on-die with the PA, a discrete PLL, and the offset in frequency between VCO and PA carrier — that changes which of the above dominates.

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